olivierfh a écrit : ↑lundi 7 janvier 2019 à 18:07
SanGoku a écrit : ↑mardi 25 décembre 2018 à 19:07dans la population générale il y a environ 2% de surdoués mais que parallèlement il en existe 16% au sein des TSA
Intéressant, ce chiffre pour les TSA vient-il d'un des liens que tu indiques et lequel?
Nova a écrit : ↑mardi 8 janvier 2019 à 10:06
olivierfh a écrit : ↑lundi 7 janvier 2019 à 18:07
SanGoku a écrit : ↑mardi 25 décembre 2018 à 19:07dans la population générale il y a environ 2% de surdoués mais que parallèlement il en existe 16% au sein des TSA
Intéressant, ce chiffre pour les TSA vient-il d'un des liens que tu indiques et lequel?
Oui j'aimerais bien avoir un lien aussi
Bonjour,
je n'ai pas retrouvé le lien de la page où j'avais trouvé ce chiffre, clairement exposé, en revanche je peux fournir d'autres considérations similaires:
16 percent of these individuals ( 116 800 sur 730 000 autistes de 0 à 21 ans aux USA ) may be twice exceptional ( IQ>120 )
https://books.google.fr/books?id=ujqSb0 ... on&f=false
( page 361: Twice exceptionality in Autism Spectrum Disorder )
At least 8 percent of people with ASD test with IQs greater than 130 which means the average person with ASD has a higher IQ than the average person in the general population; and the rate of “genius” (IQ above 130) is found four times more frequently among people with ASD (8 percent) than among the general population (two percent).
http://sp-autism.org/asd-today/
Savant syndrome is a rare and extraordinary condition that is present in significantly higher ratios in people with autism. Specifically it refers to being an “island of genius” in a sea of deficits, as the giftedness contrasts significantly with the person’s overall disability.[1]
Research suggests that while the prevalence in the non-autistic population is less than 1%, almost 10–28.5% of people with ASD have savant syndrome[2][3], and as many as one in three people with autism may possess exceptional abilities. Female savants continue to be relatively few; 6:1 male-to-female ratio.[4]
https://embraceasd.quora.com/Greater-pr ... e-with-ASD
Narrow interests and exceptional abilities. Some children may be able to deliver an in-depth monologue about a topic that holds their interest, even though they may not be able to carry on a two-way conversation about the same topic. Others may have musical talents or an advanced ability to count and do math calculations. Approximately 10 percent of children with ASD show “savant” skills, or extremely high abilities in specific areas, such as memorization, calendar calculation, music, or math.
https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/autism ... s-children
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De plus, il faut garder à l'esprit que " l'intelligence " est protéiforme, et sans doute qu'elle s'exprime différemment au sein des TSA, et donc non forcément mise en valeur lors de tests de QI standard utilisés pour la population générale, augmentant
in fine la part/proportion de personnes intelligentes dans tout le spectre ! Une intelligence non verbale en somme:
Despite autistics' success in Raven's Matrices, I, too, used to believe that verbal
tests were the best measures of intelligence. It was Dawson who opened my eyes to
this 'normocentric' attitude. She asked me: if autistics excel in a task that is used to
measure intelligence in non-autistics, why is this not considered a sign of
intelligence in autistics?
It is now amazing to me that scientists continue to use, as they have for decades,
inappropriate tests to evaluate intellectual disability among autistics,which is
routinely estimated to be about 75%. Only 10% of autistics have an accompanying
neurological disease that affects intelligence, such as fragile-X syndrome, which
renders them more likely to have an intellectual disability.
http://www.jarwan-center.com/main/wp-co ... autism.pdf
Autistic spectrum intelligence is atypical, but also genuine, general, and
underestimated.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/artic ... ne.0025372